. >> wendy: what should the obama administration do about this increased attack and the increased persecution of christians under the muslim brotherhood. >> christians in egypt are in terrible assault. this is the seat of their coptic pope, and if that can be breached, if there can be an all-out assault with grenades and firebombs and tear gas against christians during a funeral, and the funeral was for other christians who had been murdered in an attack against their village, then really no christian is safe. it is a crime to be christian in egypt, in effect. so we have to, as the largest donor to egypt -- we're extremely generous as a country to egypt, both in our direct aid to the military, the economic aid, and to their farm loans, and we need to draw a red line and say these christians must be protected and their murderers must be brought to trial and justice must be served. >> wendy: we saw the incredible story of the two women from iran. and we know others, including pastor saeed abedini, are still jailed in iran. why does the regime there fear christianity so much? >> well, they deriv